Comments on: The Restoration Movement http://bibleqna.com/q-n-a/the-restoration-movement/ You Ask The Questions, The Bible Gives The Answers Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:21:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Norm http://bibleqna.com/q-n-a/the-restoration-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Norm Sat, 23 May 2009 16:02:45 +0000 http://bibleqna.com/wpblog/?p=7#comment-8 Kyle, I contemplated for a long time whether or not I would post your comments. There were a couple of reasons that I thought I would not. For one, they are too long. If you disagree with what I have written then just state your disagreement and why. If you want to write your own posts then start your own blog. For another thing, your comments are not honest. Neither are your questions for that matter, hence the section title. You are not an honest seeker for truth but a defender of denominationalism. You already have your mind made up, so it really doesn’t matter to you what the Bible says. I have decided to go ahead and publish your comments so that the honest reader can see for themselves the inability of the skeptic to oppose true biblical doctrine. I would ask that you shorten them up some for future posts. Just tell me what it is you disagree with and why and I will answer it. Bible Q-n-A is not the place for you to post your "articles." I'm completely open to debate anything I post on this site, lets just try to keep it concise. I gave Scriptural reasoning to the “question” of where the saved were prior to the restoration movement. They were in the same place they are now, in the church of Christ. I wrote a great deal regarding my conviction that the church of Christ has been worshipping God in spirit and in truth from the time of its establishment in A.D. 30 (Acts 2). I showed why we do not claim any of the early American restoration preachers as “founders” of the church of Christ. Yet you continue to attribute “founders” for us! We have a Founder, his name is Jesus the Christ! (Acts 20:28; 1 Cor. 3:11; Matt. 16:18). You continue to claim that the church of Christ is a denomination. Did Christ establish a denomination, Kyle? Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1:13). We are the church of Christ because we observe only the doctrine of Christ. We are not divided from those who so practice doctrinal purity. We are in unity with any who uphold biblical doctrine to the exclusion of man-made doctrine. Just because some who claim to be the church of Christ have forsaken true biblical doctrine doesn’t mean the church of Christ is divided. It means they have departed from the faith, they are no longer the church of Christ (Rev. 2-3). Paul said that we are thoroughly furnished unto every good work by the word of God (2 Tim. 3:16, 17). So what denomination are we directed to by the word of God? None! When the New Testament was written there was no such thing as denominations and there should be no such thing as denominations today. Denominationalism is not a good work of Christ. It is man-made heresy. My goal for sites like Bible Q-n-A is to turn as many people as possible away from sinful denominationalism to the truth of God’s word and his one true church (Eph. 1:22, 23; 4:4-6). There is one church just as assuredly as there is on God! Kyle,

I contemplated for a long time whether or not I would post your comments. There were a couple of reasons that I thought I would not. For one, they are too long. If you disagree with what I have written then just state your disagreement and why. If you want to write your own posts then start your own blog.

For another thing, your comments are not honest. Neither are your questions for that matter, hence the section title. You are not an honest seeker for truth but a defender of denominationalism. You already have your mind made up, so it really doesn’t matter to you what the Bible says.

I have decided to go ahead and publish your comments so that the honest reader can see for themselves the inability of the skeptic to oppose true biblical doctrine. I would ask that you shorten them up some for future posts. Just tell me what it is you disagree with and why and I will answer it. Bible Q-n-A is not the place for you to post your “articles.” I’m completely open to debate anything I post on this site, lets just try to keep it concise.

I gave Scriptural reasoning to the “question” of where the saved were prior to the restoration movement. They were in the same place they are now, in the church of Christ. I wrote a great deal regarding my conviction that the church of Christ has been worshipping God in spirit and in truth from the time of its establishment in A.D. 30 (Acts 2). I showed why we do not claim any of the early American restoration preachers as “founders” of the church of Christ. Yet you continue to attribute “founders” for us! We have a Founder, his name is Jesus the Christ! (Acts 20:28; 1 Cor. 3:11; Matt. 16:18).

You continue to claim that the church of Christ is a denomination. Did Christ establish a denomination, Kyle? Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1:13). We are the church of Christ because we observe only the doctrine of Christ. We are not divided from those who so practice doctrinal purity. We are in unity with any who uphold biblical doctrine to the exclusion of man-made doctrine. Just because some who claim to be the church of Christ have forsaken true biblical doctrine doesn’t mean the church of Christ is divided. It means they have departed from the faith, they are no longer the church of Christ (Rev. 2-3).

Paul said that we are thoroughly furnished unto every good work by the word of God (2 Tim. 3:16, 17). So what denomination are we directed to by the word of God? None! When the New Testament was written there was no such thing as denominations and there should be no such thing as denominations today. Denominationalism is not a good work of Christ. It is man-made heresy.

My goal for sites like Bible Q-n-A is to turn as many people as possible away from sinful denominationalism to the truth of God’s word and his one true church (Eph. 1:22, 23; 4:4-6). There is one church just as assuredly as there is on God!

]]> By: Kyle http://bibleqna.com/q-n-a/the-restoration-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Kyle Fri, 22 May 2009 12:00:56 +0000 http://bibleqna.com/wpblog/?p=7#comment-5 My , I find this one to be one of the better ones in the writing Bro. Norm. I suppose any reader could see that while I do appreciate your diligence and it is most refreshing to see students of the Bible seeking to get it perfectly right.... I have always found that in conversation if one will give a Church of Christ enough rope they will hang themselves. Let us look at your statements Bro. Norm. Now , YOU state that outside of the Church of Christ one cannot be saved as in a denomination... those are your words , however , before the Church of Christ came to be ..... where in the world where men saved? because Barton Stone of course as other "restoration leaders" had plenty of ties with the Baptist church. So , did they come and get saved in this Church of Christ? try as you may Bro. Norm the Church of Christ is a denomination. Denomination meaning to denominate or diveide you guys do exactly that and EVEN within yourselves you are denominated (Music , no music , one cup , many cups , liberal , conservative , clapping , no clapping ) ..... Bro. Norm you guys are so divided. You are part of a denomination and anyone reading must understand that the Church of Christ make the claim "They are not a denomination" because if they did not then there entire "doctrine" (yes they have one of those as well) would come to shambles when teaching they are the true church. So , you say the church was around ..... but really 99.9% of churches were Methodist , Baptist ..... ehh even Catholic and you will find the assortment of others but the Church of Christ which you claim to be the true church ... well it wasnt in exisitence as we know it today so therefore there unforunately must have not been any hope until the "restoration fathers" came along. Guys , to teach you are the ONLY church is very very dangerous as are many of the Church of Christ teachings. I pray anyone who comes across this website will take your Bible and truly study and seek God ..... do not simply take a word and run with it. The name Church of Christ ... well its a play on words because its not about that name. The "Church of Christ" is ANYONE saved and washed in the blood of Christ whether be Methodist , Baptist , Pentecostal and so on. If they are saved and washed in the blood of Jesus they are part of this body of Jesus Christ. Its about being part of him not a part of some denomination. I hope everyone will seek God on the matter and study most sincerely to see what God says on the issue. ~God Bless~ My , I find this one to be one of the better ones in the writing Bro. Norm. I suppose any reader could see that while I do appreciate your diligence and it is most refreshing to see students of the Bible seeking to get it perfectly right…. I have always found that in conversation if one will give a Church of Christ enough rope they will hang themselves. Let us look at your statements Bro. Norm. Now , YOU state that outside of the Church of Christ one cannot be saved as in a denomination… those are your words , however , before the Church of Christ came to be ….. where in the world where men saved? because Barton Stone of course as other “restoration leaders” had plenty of ties with the Baptist church. So , did they come and get saved in this Church of Christ? try as you may Bro. Norm the Church of Christ is a denomination. Denomination meaning to denominate or diveide you guys do exactly that and EVEN within yourselves you are denominated (Music , no music , one cup , many cups , liberal , conservative , clapping , no clapping ) ….. Bro. Norm you guys are so divided. You are part of a denomination and anyone reading must understand that the Church of Christ make the claim “They are not a denomination” because if they did not then there entire “doctrine” (yes they have one of those as well) would come to shambles when teaching they are the true church. So , you say the church was around ….. but really 99.9% of churches were Methodist , Baptist ….. ehh even Catholic and you will find the assortment of others but the Church of Christ which you claim to be the true church … well it wasnt in exisitence as we know it today so therefore there unforunately must have not been any hope until the “restoration fathers” came along. Guys , to teach you are the ONLY church is very very dangerous as are many of the Church of Christ teachings. I pray anyone who comes across this website will take your Bible and truly study and seek God ….. do not simply take a word and run with it. The name Church of Christ … well its a play on words because its not about that name. The “Church of Christ” is ANYONE saved and washed in the blood of Christ whether be Methodist , Baptist , Pentecostal and so on. If they are saved and washed in the blood of Jesus they are part of this body of Jesus Christ. Its about being part of him not a part of some denomination. I hope everyone will seek God on the matter and study most sincerely to see what God says on the issue.

~God Bless~

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