Norm

Preacher for the Bawcomville church of Christ, host of Bible Q-n-A and several web sites, web designer, twitterer and blogger.

23 responses to “Ascertaining Biblical Authority”

  1. jeff

    “For example, in Acts 2:42 we have the approved example of the Jerusalem church assembling on the first day of the week to hear God’s word, take the Lord’s Supper and pray. ”

    I was confused by this – where in Acts 2:42 does is say the church assembled on the first day of the week? Verse 46 says they met every day. I don’t have a problem with meeting on Sunday (that is the day I meet with my local congregation), but I don’t see how Acts 2:42 is an approved example of meeting on Sunday. Can you help?

  2. jeff

    Hey Norm,

    Thanks for the response. I agree that the Day of Pentecost (for all the reasons you gave) was a Sunday. Thanks for the background – very powerful. I think those are very powerful points, in combination with Sunday being resurrection day, that Sunday is the day we are to assemble and remember Christ.

    I guess my challenge is that I fear I’ve read into verses 42-47 what I wanted them to say; a continuation of the day of Pentecost in the previous 41 verses. However, after further investigation and reflection, I see verses 42-47 as possibly being Luke’s reflection of the days\weeks following the day of Pentecost, especially in light of verse 46 which says “every day.” Do you think that is possible?

    Thanks for you response!

  3. Jeff2

    Actually, 2:42 says nothing about these activities being on the day of Pentecost. It is an assumption and a misreading of the Acts narrative. They “continued steadfastly” indicates that it is a continual activity (they didn’t just fellowship, pray and listen to the apostles on the first day of the week alone!). But, any attempt to force the text to say this is on that day is pure assumption. Furthermore, while it is “probable” that this is the Lord’s Supper, the same term is used in 2:47 – “breaking of bread” and it is an arbitrary distinction to say that these are different. We are engaged, then, in “eisegesis” – (reading into the text what we want it to say) rather than “exegesis” (drawing out of the text what it actually says). This is, in part, the problem of assuming what we’ve long held true and trying to prove too much with “proof texts.” It is also, in part, a reading of narrative as though it were a rule book or legal document. Indeed, Acts gives us historical precedent, but the reading of Acts as a legal document is reading into it what it is not. While the overall tenor of the NT and historical Christianity points to the 1st day of the week as the day Christians assembled and partook of the Lord’s Supper, using Acts 2:42 in this way is a misuse of Scripture and of the context of the passage. It’s like using (rather misusing) 1 Corinthians 6:18 (the context of sexual purity) to prove one must not use tobacco. A bad argument, even when a conclusion may be correct, does great damage.

  4. Kev

    Thanks for your article. I’ve recently been involved in discussions regarding authority. I do have a question regarding your view of solos in the assembly. Does not 1 Corinthians 14:26 include “a psalm” along with other gifts used by individuals for the assembly’s edification? I do not believe here that this is someone getting up to lead a song everyone already knows, but rather someone coming before the assembly with a new song given to them much like a revelation, tongue, interpretation, etc would have been given them on-the-spot so to speak by the Holy Spirit. Would this not have been a solo for the edification of the assembly? And does “teaching and admonishing one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs” require everyone to be singing at the same time? Could one side of the aisle sing the other side and vice versa?…a soloist could then be taught and admonished by the remainder of the assembly? In all the discussions I’ve been involved with regarding singing and musical instruments, it always ends with “singing” is specific therefore musical instruments are unauthorized. I agree, BUT, perhaps the command “to sing” is also more generic than we think. I must always read the Scriptures proactively as my new man seeks to serve his holy God more purely and not reactively, simply to prove my denominational friends wrong.

    1. Tina Dozier

      Good points, Kev.

      John 13:14  If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet.
      Galatians 6:2  Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

      If someone is washing my feet, do I have to be washing his at the same time or even on the same day? If he is bearing my burdens, in my burdensome situation do I also have to be bearing his? What good would that do either of us? I could just bear my own and let him bear his own.

      I believe we are to encourage one another, edify one another, and admonish one another with songs, but I don’t know why I have to encourage someone while he’s encouraging me or edify him while he’s edifying me or admonish him in song while he’s admonishing me.

      Tina

  5. Meg

    I appreciate your article and your taking the time to explain some of the common viewpoints many Christians have been raised in. That being said, the main concern I have with some of your arguments is the misuse of verses to prove your point. You, as many others before you, have used Eph 5:19 as the bread and butter verse for why we are unauthorized to use musical instruments. If the verse is kept within the context, Paul is giving the Ephesians a detailed description of means by which to be filled with the Spirit. He tells them throughout the entire 5th chapter that they are to walk in love, being imitators of God. He goes on to remind them of where they came from (Eph 5: 8) and not to return but rather expose the darkness for what it truly is. Paul then gives them examples of how they are no longer to be drunk with wine, but filled with Spirit…which is where vs. 19 picks up. So in all of that description, in all of Paul’s beautiful encouragement, his words of Eph 5:19 have been minimized to a simple proof text of why we sing acapella and why instrumental music is unauthorized.

    I too feel that singing acapella is more close to what God wants in our worship to Him. However, in explaining those reasons, I have learned that simply pointing to a verse and saying, “There, there’s my authority for singing the way I do,” has done a great disservice to the rest of a beautiful passage. It turns what is supposed to be a letter of encouragement, strength, and depth into nothing but a rulebook that I turn to and point to Rule No. 5,367 states: thou shalt not use instruments.

    I have questioned many of my current beliefs and convictions in the recent years. And one of my biggest concerns about Christians today, particularly the church of Christ, is what do we want our legacy to be? I have read letters dating back to the 1st century where a Roman soldier described a Christian he was persecuting. The soldier wrote on and on about how peculiar the Christian was because of his intense love for Christ and his love for other Christians, people who outside of Christ he had nothing else in common. That Christian’s legacy was his love. Currently if you ask most anyone today about the church of Christ, they will say, “Oh yeah, they’re the ones who think they’re the only ones going to heaven, don’t use instruments or kitchens.” That is sadly the legacy we have created. I don’t want that to be my legacy anymore.

    I want my legacy to be about my love for Christ and being a servant to others.

    1. Tina Dozier

      Great thoughts, Meg!

      Tina

  6. Eliud Gamez Sr.

    I had doubts about the use of song books, microphones, etc during the worship, But I learned from the theme Ascertaining Biblical Authority
    there are two levels of authority, Specific and General Authority.
    Thanks Bro Norm for your wise and comlete explanation.
    QUE BUENO SERIA QUE PREDICARAS EN ESPAÑOL.

  7. Tina Dozier

    You said: “For example, Jesus used the principle of necessary inference when he corrected the Saducees [sic] on the doctrine of the resurrection (Luke 20:37, 38). If Moses said that God was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob after those three men were dead and God is the God of the living and not the dead then the necessary inference is that when a person’s body dies that person does not die, his soul lives on. That is the unavoidable necessary conclusion.”

    That is not the unavoidable conclusion I come to. If Jesus was discussing the doctrine of resurrection, which He was, then the unavoidable conclusion is that these men are dead and therefore, since God is the God of the living, these men will be RESURRECTED. I don’t see that it has anything to do with their soul living on. Jesus is proving the resurrection, not the immortality of the soul. That’s how I see it anyway. If their souls live on while they aren’t resurrected, then Jesus’ words didn’t prove the resurrection. They didn’t NEED the resurrection for God to be the God of the living since they were still living somewhere. But since they were dead, NOT living, the resurrection had to take place for God to be their God and be the God of the living. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s how I see it.

  8. Mike

    Tina,

    Thank you for your question concerning necessary inference and bible authority.

    I believe that you are half way there, but just not going far enough to answer the question. “What is being resurrected?” Something MUST be immortal, in order for a person to live on after the body has ceased to function (died). It certainly is not the physical body, for it is in the grave decaying. You are correct that Jesus is making a case for the RESURRECTION – but WHAT is going to be resurrected?

    Jesus reminds us, “be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matt 10:28ASV).

    Now then, what is able to be killed? ANSWER: The physical Body – What is NOT able to be killed? ANSWER: The immortal soul.
    The word “destroy” should not worry us, because it is not the same term as we often think of, as being ‘annihilated’ – but this word in the Greek simply refers to God’s ability to deliver the lost soul to eternal misery. BOTH the immortal soul and their new spiritual body (1 Corinthians 15:42-44).

    “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Mark 8:36-37KJV).

    Jesus here is showing the value of the immortal soul. It is the soul, the immortal side of our being that we were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27). It is the ‘soul’ that lives on, and the ‘soul’ that will be resurrected at Christ’s return.

    Yes, Jesus was proving to the Sadducees that there will be a resurrection of the ‘physically dead,’ yet ‘spiritually alive’ (the immortal soul). Therefore, God IS the God of the living. Therefore it is the case that Jesus’ words DID prove the resurrection, as well as the existence of a immortal soul. IF not, WHY not?

  9. Mel

    Since the resurrection of Jesus was after three days, “Praise God, He Arose.” When we are baptized, born again, and arise to walk in Newness of Life, Q.: “Are we not re-enacting the gospel, the death
    on the cross, burial And Resurrection… in baptism Contacting the
    blood of Christ the forgiveness of sins-receiving the Holy Spirit Promised gift? When our physical body dies, if we were born again while we were alive and our soul is safe “in-Christ,” there is no fear of the Second death. As being Resurrected in Christ, will also share in the Second Coming and the promise of Salvation.
    We are alive again(because we “were” dead in our sins) and if faithful unto physical death, (it seems that in Luke 20 Jesus is saying, don’t worry about if we are married in heaven or not, this will be the “New Age).”Sounds like this does infer that Abraham, Issac, Jacob are the servants that died “saved”(under the old law, obedient, are physically dead, yet alive spiritually in God(they are to be included in the resurrection.) “For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.” This only makes since to me that he is God to those who have put God on and have decided to live for Him during the lifetime they lived physically.

    But, the scribes decided not to ask Jesus any move questions, maybe they were getting too close to seeing His Righteousness.

    Jesus connected himself to the past to wash away all sins under old law as well as new, he spoke with authority of how God will be in view in the Resurrection. As Mary(the sister of Lazarus) realized Jesus was the Resurrection and the Life.

    Does this perhaps reinforce that the saved of all ages, unto God, will be blessed with the “New Age” of Heaven? Those who are His He Knows. Those who have been his in the past can be resurrected and rewards with eternal life after the grave. Anyways, those dead in sins are not living reborn in Christ, even though they are physically alive.
    Regarding the point about alive vs dead. Mike that was an excellent answer. But my Q. is: Doesn’t dead carry different meanings. Dead in Sins. Dead meaning asleep, or in the bossom of Abraham (*safe)or without water for the tongue(*unsaved? well, that is another topic. Jesus did preach to those below during the three days, declaring His Victory accomplishing God’s promised being the Messiah. At any rate, there will be a grand reunion of the saved at the end of time at judgement day where all will be judged and Resurrected.

    Also, Tina,regarding worship, Everyday it is important to be
    the Living Sacrifice His children are to give Him, not only exemplify
    the Christian Life on Sunday, as Obedient to the Assembly,but
    we must obey Him everyday, and edify each other so that we are not Hardened by sin. Hebrews 3:13. Gal. 6:10 Be good to all men, especially the household of faith.

    Either we prove His Word or we are offending Him. This study is extremely important. We must be Sound in Faith and Sound in Doctrine according to Timothy and Titus. I believe Norm is right on track when it comes to getting our Authority from Christ, the Bible
    speaks Commands to Obey, Gives Approved Examples, and Necessary Inferrence.

  10. Eliud Gamez Sr.

    Bro. Norm:
    I am studying about congregational singing in New Testament church. I want to clarify two questions.
    1.-Is it true that Amos pronounced a curse upon those who, like David introduced instrumental music into Hebrew worship?
    2.-Choirs and solo supporters say that the entire congregation must sing every word simultaneosly. They say “If we can not have choirs and solos, you can not sing in four-part harmony.
    How can I respond to them?

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